
Alex and I climbed at Hellgate again today, and I did my best not to throw rocks at the hords of people there from the Wasatch Mountain Club who had ropes hanging on every route with the exception of two. Those guys can take up a crag like nobody's business. Last winter we ran into them at Maple and they had all but closed the entire canyon and pretty much destroyed the already fickle ice in the process. Needless to say, I'm not a fan.
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